I was at work this morning reading a book, and one of my co-workers started this conversation with me. It moved to speech beyond what’s quoted here, but what’s said here is really a good starting point for discussion about society in general, and about stereotypes (and the apparent reason behind them). This conversation also made me realize that I really miss having long, drawn-out discussions with people on higher subjects; I think that working tech support for as long as I have has made me dumber. Or at least deadened my previous ability to have lofty conversations without having to slow down the way I think.
(co-worker):the only real reason to read this article is because of this “The politics of this controversial industry are more apparent in Bhagat’s work, where the business epitomises American domination and Indian weakness. Here new trainees are taught the ’35=10 rule’ on day one. ‘A 35-year-old American’s brain and IQ is the same as a 10-year-old Indian’s brain. This will help you understand your clients,’ training instructors explain.” http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1779759,00.html
Devlogic:
that’s a pretty good article
» says a lot about the mindset of Indians (i.e, persons from the [Indian] subcontinent), especially in light of how they’re utilized in the modern business world.
» if I didn’t hate soaps so much, I might be tempted to go find that “India Calling” that’s mentioned and watch it…
(co-worker):
Never heard of it, but I dont watch soaps either. So far tech support being moved doesn’t really bother me, everyone needs to make money to eat, I’m peaceful and all-loving. What annoys me are the hick assholes that call in and say “oh thank god you live in america”. Thats when the subject of foreign tech support really gets to me.
Devlogic:
True. And I think I agree with the generalization of the “35=10” thing; by and large, the americans that call tech support (not the ones that need to, just the ones who do) are stupid. And I’m not speaking of mere ignorance, either; ignorance is easy to get beyond because it’s merely a lack of knowledge. Stupidity (at least, one definition of it in my mind) is being ignorant, knowing you’re ignorant, and deciding that you like it that way. So it’s difficult to understand the accent; most of the time, if you listen carefully (instead of just waiting for your turn to speak), it’s not that difficult to understand what you’re hearing. I think part of it is just people thinking that because someone sounds different in their speaking manner, they’re considered less intelligent.
(co-worker):
Good point, ppl assume if you don’t speak english you aren’t smart.
» I’ve heard techs here that have accents mention little things like that as well. Real shame.
Devlogic
It really is, especially when you consider how many “foreigners” are also considered some of the “smartest” people in the world: Greeks and Romans abound in philosophy and math (Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Pythagoras, etc). psychology by and large was perfected by Austrians and Germans (Freud, Jung). The Chinese invented so many things so far in advance of the “Western World” that it’s ridiculous. Heck, even Calculus was invented (simultaneously, some say) by an Englishman and a German (Newton and Leibnitz). And none of them spoke “American” English without an accent (or even spoke English at all).
» and not that I’m really trying to drag religion into it, but the bible definitely wasn’t written in english originally
(co-worker):
You’ve thought a lot about this, havent you?
Devlogic:
not really, most of this is coming off the top of my head
